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One purpose of forums such as this is to facilitate communications between us. Hopefully this will go beyond individual treatment protocols. It stands to reason that if corporations are allowed to act irresponsibly in the area of genetic engineering we will be subjected to these plagues for decades if not centuries. We must organize if we are ever to stop this madness. 

Irresponsible and predatory scientists and corporations are responsible for this misery and, while biowarfare may also a factor, we have clear evidence that the agricultural industry is a culprit in the creation and spread of the Morgellon's syndrome. 

There are a couple of videos that are scientifically and legally significant with respect to M, one of which was referenced in an earlier message to several here:


The second one is most significant because 1) it shows an awareness within the farming community of the scope of the problem and 2) it shows that Monsanto has lost at least twice in the courts. 


If we can unify the Morgellon's victims AND COMBINE FORCES WITH THE FARMERS OF NORTH AMERICA, we have a chance of rebuffing these corporations and putting an end to their role in this madness. 


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One of the things we can do now, that would help our cause greatly is get RON PAUL elected. He is a champion of personal liberty and private property rights, and has the cojones to stand up to the establishment concerning issues that no one else would dare take on.  When you investigate his courage, it is remarkable. 


You may not agree with all of his views, but this would certainly go a long way toward freeing us from corporate abuse. 

In support of Dr. Paul I have attached a letter I wrote to my relatives a while back entitled "What will REALLY happen if we elect Ron Paul." It gives the details of several central issues that support his positions. 

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Aside from Dr. Paul, please give this message some thought and let's discuss the possibility of mobilizing, perhaps starting with a web site that is dedicated to combining forces between the farming community and Morgellon's sufferers. 

Have a blessed New Year.

gordon


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Permalink Reply by Sherry Taylor on December 26, 2011 at 12:54pm

Excellent Gordon,

You folded in your politics but if it helps..it's all good.

Those videos are a re affirming of at least one key aspect of this.

It's mysterious that Monsanto had developed seeds that will still grow in all these acids and metals..have they been working on it for some time..insider knowledge?

Hummmm

Thanks gordon

Permalink Reply by Lucie E. on January 9, 2012 at 9:36pm

 Hi,

    I hate genetic engineering as much as the next person but I doubt it has anything to do with this illness. I say this because I have read a report about a woman who had this and she had contracted it in 1934, the paper was written in 1951 and the description fits. Her doctors did not take her seriously at first either until she got them a specimen. Needless to say genetic engineering was not around back then. I think this has been around alot longer than we think

L.

Permalink Reply by Sherry Taylor on January 9, 2012 at 10:35pm

Yes I do know what you mean..It will be nice when some of these mysteries are solved.

GMO's have eroded our health....are there precursors to..what makes some people more susceptible?  There is definitely an exposure factor..often all the people in one family have it...but not necessarily one person could not be affected.  Or I know my ex got a sore once and nothing after that.  same with my accountant..something on his finger..he put bleacj on it and that was it.  He helped me with the garage as I was leaving..felt things jumping..but he's OK.  He did have a recurrence of an old injury..disc thing.  It's hard to not feel guilty and responsible for everything.

 I visited my brother and was relatively clear..or I wouldn't gave gone..and in his dusty spare bedroom in the basement..I got very bad..in one night.  I used my own sleeping bag..which had been infused with mint..still when I got home pitch black hairs were coming out of my check bones..yikes.

So many unanswered questions.

There appear to be many ways to be assaulted by the environment...water, earth, air as well as the infectious human way of getting it.

It may have to do with the delicate balance being upset by various hardy bacteria..the fungus, nematodes..the clean up crew.

That is the GMO connection..I'm sure there is a link I'm missing..the bacteria used to ferry genes links with the e-coli bacteria in the gut..in some people the dominoes fall fast..but even really healthy people can get this too...the baseball player.

It does seem like rather a lot of people are getting this now.

The dermatologists office was packed.  I felt jabs like pins waiting in his reception room.

Someone in the laundry room said..an awful lot of people he knows now have "allergies".

Let's hope this is the year this mystery..and a treatment are found 

Hope you are having a very insightful new year Lucie.

Lucie E. said:

 Hi,

    I hate genetic engineering as much as the next person but I doubt it has anything to do with this illness. I say this because I have read a report about a woman who had this and she had contracted it in 1934, the paper was written in 1951 and the description fits. Her doctors did not take her seriously at first either until she got them a specimen. Needless to say genetic engineering was not around back then. I think this has been around alot longer than we think

L.

Permalink Reply by Gordon Dye on January 10, 2012 at 1:56am

Yes Lucie. This may have been around since time immemorial. 

But that doesn't account for the relatively sudden increase in occurrences.

gordon



Lucie E. said:

 Hi,

    I hate genetic engineering as much as the next person but I doubt it has anything to do with this illness. I say this because I have read a report about a woman who had this and she had contracted it in 1934, the paper was written in 1951 and the description fits. Her doctors did not take her seriously at first either until she got them a specimen. Needless to say genetic engineering was not around back then. I think this has been around alot longer than we think

L.

Permalink Reply by Lucie E. on January 11, 2012 at 8:31pm

 

Hi Gordon,

I wholeheartedly  agree with you that bio-engineering is a factor, as anything that weakens the human body such as pollution, bad life habits, contaminated food, ect. all contribute to making us susceptible to illness of any kind, including this one. Actually, alll the above play a major role, I concur.

However, in what concerns the increase in occurences, we simply don't have enough statistical data to establish weather there is an increase or not over a long enough time period. I think we can safely say there is an increase in reported cases.  That can suggests many things, one of which is that the developpement in global communications has made us more aware of it and has allowed us to become more concious of it as a global issue via the new technologies: internet (forums), television, ect. Therefore, it is hard to establish that there is an increase in cases. They may simply not have been as widely and readily reported. More and more people are now speaking out via the media and their reports, henceforth, accumulate as a more noticeable mass. Misery does love company ;).

That said, there may very well be more actual occurences, who knows. Your theory about bio-engineering is very interesting and is certainly a plausible hypothesis, but I don't think we can know for sure without having more reliable current data and previous statistics to compare.

On a more personnal note, I hate bio-engineering and all the poisons we consume these days too, not to mention the oh so insane pace of modern life. Mr. Common sense on his blog had a fascinating entry about Bio-terrain and how we need to mind ours first and foremost. I would recommend his blog to anyone who hasn't been there yet. He has a good view of the Big picture concerning this illness.

I wish you well and look foward to reading more concerning any theory you may have on this.

L.

Permalink Reply by Lucie E. on January 11, 2012 at 9:42pm

You have a good point about the multiple factors leading to this Sherry. A strained metabolism may be a predistosition to this illness but it does take exposure and my theory is that it is more likely to develop if the exposure is massive... I was swarmed by an infested shirt for hours before I could understand what the itching was get home and get it off me. But I certainly had predisposing factors too. I just don't think it's one evil thing causing it, its a confluence of circumstances.

 

L.

Sherry Taylor said:

Yes I do know what you mean..It will be nice when some of these mysteries are solved.

GMO's have eroded our health....are there precursors to..what makes some people more susceptible?  There is definitely an exposure factor..often all the people in one family have it...but not necessarily one person could not be affected.  Or I know my ex got a sore once and nothing after that.  same with my accountant..something on his finger..he put bleacj on it and that was it.  He helped me with the garage as I was leaving..felt things jumping..but he's OK.  He did have a recurrence of an old injury..disc thing.  It's hard to not feel guilty and responsible for everything.

I visited my brother and was relatively clear..or I wouldn't gave gone..and in his dusty spare bedroom in the basement..I got very bad..in one night.  I used my own sleeping bag..which had been infused with mint..still when I got home pitch black hairs were coming out of my check bones..yikes.

So many unanswered questions.

There appear to be many ways to be assaulted by the environment...water, earth, air as well as the infectious human way of getting it.

It may have to do with the delicate balance being upset by various hardy bacteria..the fungus, nematodes..the clean up crew.

That is the GMO connection..I'm sure there is a link I'm missing..the bacteria used to ferry genes links with the e-coli bacteria in the gut..in some people the dominoes fall fast..but even really healthy people can get this too...the baseball player.

It does seem like rather a lot of people are getting this now.

The dermatologists office was packed.  I felt jabs like pins waiting in his reception room.

Someone in the laundry room said..an awful lot of people he knows now have "allergies".

Let's hope this is the year this mystery..and a treatment are found 

Hope you are having a very insightful new year Lucie.

Lucie E. said:

Hi,

I hate genetic engineering as much as the next person but I doubt it has anything to do with this illness. I say this because I have read a report about a woman who had this and she had contracted it in 1934, the paper was written in 1951 and the description fits. Her doctors did not take her seriously at first either until she got them a specimen. Needless to say genetic engineering was not around back then. I think this has been around alot longer than we think

 

L.

Permalink Reply by Gordon Dye on January 12, 2012 at 6:46am

The significant points of my post are unchanged, assuming everything you have stated is true:

  • We have evidence that this condition is opportunistically aggravated by, if not caused by, the bio-engineered organisms that have been released to the environment.
  • The problems associated with Round Up cross plant, animal and fungus kingdoms as do Morgellons symptoms.
  • The possibility exists that this condition was like a plague safely tucked away until released by man. 
  • We may be able to join forces with the farming community synergistically in that: 1) If they know about these symptoms, it will underscore the dangers of bio-engineering thereby further validating their concerns, and 2) they can provide money, influence, voting power and a more unified front in dealing with the establishment than we can, partly because they are healthier than we are.
Thanks for your input on this matter. It will add to our credibility.
gordon


Lucie E. said:

 

Hi Gordon,

...

However, in what concerns the increase in occurences, we simply don't have enough statistical data to establish weather there is an increase or not over a long enough time period. 

...

I wish you well and look foward to reading more concerning any theory you may have on this.

L.

Permalink Reply by Margaret B. on January 12, 2012 at 8:32pm

Before we go forward in 2012, we have to go back to 1962.

  • Codex Alimentarius was created in 1962 as a trade Commission by the UN to control the international trade of food
  • it has been taken over by corporate interests, most notably the pharmaceutical, pesticide, biotechnology and chemical industries.
  • Codex Alimentarius is backed up by the crippling trade sanctions of the World Trade Organization (WTO). Any non Codex-compliant nation would face huge economic punishment since they would automatically lose in any food-trade dispute with a Codex compliant country.
  • Codex Alimentarius Commission (CAC) has two committees which impact nutrition.
  • The “Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses” (CCNFSDU), is chaired by Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, a physician who believes that nutrition has no role in health. This is the “top-guy” for Codex nutritional policy, and he has stated that “nutrition is not relevant to health”.
  • Dr. Grossklaus declared nutrients to be toxins in 1994 and instituted the use of toxicology (Risk Assessment) to prevent nutrients from having any impact on humans who take supplements! It is worth mentioning that Dr. Grossklaus happens to own the Risk Assessment company advising CCNFSDU and Codex on this issue. This company makes money when its toxicology services are used for the “assessment” of nutrients. Here in the U.S. we call that a “conflict of interest”.
  • Codex is made up of thousands of standards and guidelines. One of them, the Vitamin and Mineral Guideline (VMG), is designed to permit only ultra low doses of vitamins and minerals (and make clinically effective nutrients illegal). How can the VMG restrict dosages of vitamins and minerals? By using Risk Assessment (toxicology) to assess nutrients.
  • To protect citizens from “nutritional toxins”, Codex has the “right” to irradiate, obliterate, and annihilate this “threat”.

 

As nutrients are the real product farmers produce then maybe we could unite and include a call to have the above junk science and its ramifications overturned. This would also be in both farmers and Morgellons victims best interests.

 

Please, inspire the masses. I would love to get out of bed!!!

Margaret

Permalink Reply by Margaret B. on January 13, 2012 at 2:10pm

 

If we are talking politics (to a lesser degree than the actual point of Gordon’s post, which is a call to action to start a website where farmers and consumers with M together to form an alliance), then let’s throw some scripture into the mix to address M’s discovery…

Then I turned my thoughts to consider wisdom, and also madness and folly. What more can the king's successor do than what has already been done? The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Ecclesiastes 1:9

I believe at this point we agree that there is nothing new. M has been around and for an undisclosed period, while man has been finding a way to capitalize on it for power, money, control, yadddda yadda.

So back to the point; what non-violet, affirmative, effective action can we take?

Could someone make a survey to see who is willing to do something?

We could take Gordon’s idea and start a brainstorming discussion and hopefully see ideas to fruition.

Or is this page already the aforementioned beginning, which we are already adding to?

I am not the one to start it for many reasons, but I would definitely be on-board to sign petitions, brainstorm ideas, whatever positive action I could take. Count me in.

Margaret

Permalink Reply by Gordon Dye on January 13, 2012 at 2:52pm

Thank you Margaret. If we were to do a web site, it would be a blog site with specific objectives. It would present it's objectives and have several subtopics. It would include evidence that glycogen is related to Morgellons, and talk about a lot of organic farming issues. 

Ultimately, it would discuss what can be done collectively to challenge Monsanto in the courts and in Congress.

I could not monitor such a site, but I could help build it. 

We would need to have a number of people 1) in favor of it. and 2) willing to put time in on the project once the web site was done.

gordon



Margaret B. said:

 If we are talking politics (to a lesser degree than the actual point of Gordon’s post, which is a call to action to start a website where farmers and consumers with M together to form an alliance), then ...


Could someone make a survey to see who is willing to do something?

We could take Gordon’s idea and start a brainstorming discussion and hopefully see ideas to fruition.

Or is this page already the aforementioned beginning, which we are already adding to?

I am not the one to start it for many reasons, but I would definitely be on-board to sign petitions, brainstorm ideas, whatever positive action I could take. Count me in.

Margaret

Permalink Reply by Margaret B. on January 14, 2012 at 11:17am

You're welcome, indeed:

 

I am getting involved with this project because it is affirmative ACTION.

 

This weekend, I am going to go to the links you have provided to see where I stand with the info.

 

This coming week I will:

1) continue my own search for evidence that glycogen is related to Morgellons, and

      issues relating to M and organic farming

2) In addition, I will read info on websites that you suggest

 

I agree to put one foot in front of another to make sure I have the stamina and desire to do whatever action I agree to. Empty promises do not help anyone...

 

Ok, lets see where this goes,

Margaret


Gordon Dye said:

a blog site with specific objectives.

It would present it's objectives and have several subtopics

It would include evidence that glycogen is related to Morgellons, and talk about a lot of organic farming issues. 

 

Ultimately, it would discuss what can be done collectively to challenge Monsanto in the courts and in Congress.

 

I could not monitor such a site, but I could help build it. 

 

We would need to have a number of people 1) in favor of it. and 2) willing to put time in on the project once the web site was done.

 

gordon

 



Margaret B. said:

 
Could someone make a survey to see who is willing to do something?

start a brainstorming discussion and hopefully see ideas to fruition.

I would definitely be on-board to sign petitions, brainstorm ideas,

Permalink Reply by Sherry Taylor on January 14, 2012 at 1:53pm

Good job Gordon and Margaret,

I think you will nee some computer knowledgeable people..Terry seems to be one..souting around..a direct invitation could help.

Gordon has many projects on the goe always..so someone would need to manage it and possibly interface with him..re any problems to do with the site.

It sounds like  a very good idea.

Margaret at least you have the organization skills..excellent.

I'm more a people..feeling type person..so I can draw in people who respond to that.

The linear people who want the facts..and have courage re action are around..I've been watching videos from those..and they are excellent.

It's true ..we know the truth..(well maybe not all of it totally) ..how do we translate that into action to help ourselves.

Gordon is excellent at the computer..but need a partner who can be more focused on just this I think.  I shouldn't speak for him..but that's my understanding.

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